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  • Gerrit Hurkens
    • Dec 2000
    • 252

    #16


    Ik vond, tijdens een snelle zoektocht, op een website de volgende tekst(lees door, staat ook iets in over klachten bij gebruik.)
    citaat:The uses of bland aerosols [those that do not contain medication] include the delivery of sterile water, isotonic, hypotonic or hypotonic saline to the airways on a continuous bases with or without artificial airways
    Bland aerosols may be given with Fi02 .21 or more

    Bland aerosols may be given continuously or administered for 10 to 20 minutes at scheduled intervals

    Indications for large volume aerosols
    · Cool mist to the upper airways

    o Via an aerosol mask or a face shield
    o Post-op patients get cool mist to reduce the irritation that can result in swelling and edema from extubation. In this circumstance we use sterile water but sterile saline is less irritating to those who wheeze
    o Croup, laryngitis or laryngotrachitis [as long as they don’t wheeze.
    o Induce coughing for sputum sample in persons whose secretions are too scanty to produce easily.
    Very common for cytology studies to find lung cancers.
    Hypotonic or hypertonic saline solutions are used to induce coughing because they are so irritating
    o Heated aerosols: generally once the patient’s airway has been bypassed a heated aerosol is preferred to avoid the humidity deficient. More properly these folks might be better served with a heated high flow humidifier---but these devices are more expensive.

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    Cautions & contraindications to all types of aerosols but particularly cool ones
    · Any aerosol that is not a bronchodilator has the potential to cause reflex Bronchospasm.
    · Aerosols carry microbe down to the lower airways
    · They are associated with the spread of infections to caretakers [TB]
    · They are irritating to some persons
    NOTE Try to induce a cough without an aerosol first…you would be surprised how often no one has asked the patient to cough or no one has taught the patient how to cough into a sputum cup.

    From my experience as an asthmatic, the worst thing you could do to me is to administer a cool aerosol with sterile water…but that is the routine 02 administration device of choice in the recovery room.

    SO--- Check the patient’s history for asthma or COPD before giving the standard 40%-60% aerosol in the REC Room, or if he presents with SOB, and wheezing after the addition of the aerosol, you should change 02 deliveries to device with cool humidifier.
    Some facts about aerosol generators:

    They create particles of water droplets
    The 02 devices attached to aerosol generators have large aerosol hoses that will require draining every 3 hours. More often if heated aerosol

    Fi02 adjustment on pneumatic aerosol generators [the most common] are forms of entrainment—like the entrainment mask.

    As the Fi02 is raised the total flow rate to the patient drops.
    As Fi02 drops the total flow rate increases.
    The ratio is identical to that of entrainment mask [venturi-mask]
    As water builds up in the tubing there is increased pressure inside the entrainment device so that the lateral pressure rises and less air is entrained.
    The 02 delivery devices all share the same generator and entrainment port, but the actual interface [Brigg’s adaptor, or aerosol mask or face shield] has it’s own entrainment problems so the delivered Fi02 can vary.

    Fi02 on this devices will vary from 28% to 100% based on the actual entrainment ports of the aerosol generator
    Zoals ik kan lezen op andere websites van fabrikanten worden dit soort apparaten veelal gebruikt voor brandveiligheid en luchtstroomtesten(waar tocht het toch zo []?) Het belangrijkste is volgens mij de particle size van de rook. Des te groter, des te meer men er last van kan hebben.

    Ik hoop dat je hier wat aan hebt.
    \"Oeeeeeeehhh, what does this button doooooooo??????\"

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    • Gerrit Hurkens
      • Dec 2000
      • 252

      #17
      Ow ja, en de rook bestaat uit waterdeeltjes, verspreid door de druk van het Co2 gas.
      \"Oeeeeeeehhh, what does this button doooooooo??????\"

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      • laserguy
        • Jun 2003
        • 2755

        #18
        de rook zal niet uit waterdeeltjes bestaan want dan zouden zij neerslaan op koudere oppervlakten als damp wat elektrisch niet altijd even veilig zou zijn. Ik heb al twee keer in een tent gezeten met een CO2 hazer en de apparatuur die koud blijft heeft na een ganse avond altijd een lichtgrijs stoffig laagje (en neen niet afkomstig van sigaretten) en het is zeker niet vochtig). Ook de luchtfilters van de lichteffecten hebben een lichtgrijze aanslag terwijl dit anders meestal eem bruingrijze aanslag is. De hazervloeistof mag dan misschien wel op waterbasis zijn maar er zitten toch ook nog andere productjes in.
        Beware! To touch these wires is instant death. Anyone found doing so will be prosecuted.

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